The Epstein Rabbit Hole

Serial predator and procurer of underage girls for highly placed politicians and movers and shakers Epstein, of the infamous Lolita Express, has been arrested again, indicted on charges of running a sex-trafficking ring in two places between around 2002 and 2005.  Let’s hope it sticks this time and he brings down more people before his convenient suicide or totally innocent and unexpected heart attack next week.  He was arrested previously and convicted on reduced charges and allowed a sweetheart deal.  Heads should be rolling over this, including Trump’s current labor secretary, Acosta.

In more than one place recently I’ve been told that ‘nobody’ knew about him or his connections to Clinton until this month, and of course, everybody is quoting Trump from a New York article a few years ago.  This is nonsense.  IT was an open secret for a long time.

Let me say first off, I don’t think Epstein is a single party offender, I think he has a collection of people from all over the political and social spectrum, people shaking in their shoes and working on damage control right now, trying to get out in front of what’s coming.  I don’t care who they are, if they are guilty of participating in Epstein’s despicable crimes, they should go down.

So let’s take a couple things in order.

As far as I can tell Epstein first came to the public’s attention when a Page Six piece mentioned that he was friends with Bill Clinton and had flown him in his own plane around Africa.  Page Six is basically a gossip rag, and while Epstein might have been on it before, that was likely more in connection with his side-kick Ghislane Maxwell, who has recently been accused of being his procurer as well.  It’s interesting to note that two other people were mentioned as being on that flight-  Kevin Spacey and actor Chris Tucker (Rush Hour)- although some are claiming the Tucker was a different guy, a politician, he’s referred to as ‘the actor.’   So until I see evidence otherwise, I am going to guess that it was the actor.  I don’t know anything about him.  But I do know something about the other three. So do you. Look at that.  Of the four people mentioned, three are now known to be sexual predators- Bill Clinton, Spacey, and Epstein.  That’s kind of curious, isn’t it?


Shortly afterward, in what now looks like a bit of damage control, or getting out in front of the narrative, out came  this New York Magazine puff piece on Epstein.  This article is the source of the Trump quote going around where Trump says Epstein is fun, likes women as much as Trump, but Epstein likes them on the young side.  It’s even more interesting to look at that quote in the context of this article.

We’re told that Epstein, though his name is often coupled with Ghislane Maxwell, “…lives the life of a bachelor, logging 600 hours a year in his various planes as he scours the world for investment opportunities. He owns what is said to be Manhattan’s largest private house yet runs his business from a 100-acre private island in St. Thomas.”

I think we can be pretty sure now that he wasn’t scouring the world for investment opportunities and it wasn’t an investment business on his private island (nicknamed ‘orgy island.’).  Although perhaps it was investment opportunities as some are now saying his business was blackmail and/or extortion which makes more sense than the weird story that the  20 y.o. guy who we now know likes nubile teen-agers was a college drop out who started as a private high school teacher with no degree (which is creepy beyond belief) and was so good at math he was urged by the daddy of one of those girls to go to New YOrk and do investment stuff and within five years he had billion dollar clients but only one of them is actually known, and then there he was wining and dining Bill Clinton.  There is so much that should have raised red flags there.

In the NY Mag article we get a couple of quotes from anonymous sources about his mysterious connections and business, but they sound admiring, not suspicious.  We’re told he’s a loner, not very social, doesn’t do drugs or alcohol, and his nightlife is very boring.  Also, he’s member of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations (how did that happen?).  We hear from more un-named ‘friends’ that he just doesn’t like to wear suits and that’s why he quit his seat on the board at Rockefeller.  Then we get this, the very first quote from somebody willing to go on the record, and it’s somebody who is contradicting the story Epstein has created for himself:

“Epstein likes to tell people that he’s a loner, a man who’s never touched alcohol or drugs, and one whose nightlife is far from energetic. And yet if you talk to Donald Trump, a different Epstein emerges. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Trump doesn’t say he has first hand knowledge of this- he uses that useful and cagey ‘it is even said…’  But he is the first one to go on record in the story and he is not supporting the ‘less than energetic social life’ line Epstein preferred then.
The article continues:
“But beautiful women are only a part of it. Because here’s the thing about Epstein: As some collect butterflies, he collects beautiful minds. “I invest in people – be it politics or science. It’s what I do,” he has said to friends…”

He collects beautiful…. minds?  Oh, please.

At any rate, his relationship with Bill Clinton is given to us as an example of that collection, and collection may well be the right word.

Ghislane Maxwell, by the way, gets called a man-eater (by that convenient ‘some say’) because she flies a helicoptor and has been seen dining with Bill Clinton, and she has a ‘high octane social life’ and Epstein doesn’t, although he might be seen around town with a bevy of comely women (such a strange thing to throw in the same section about his low octane social life, and the ‘man-eating’ Ghislane)

“You may read about Jeffrey in the social columns, but there is much more to him than that,” says Jeffrey T. Leeds of the private equity firm Leeds Weld & Co. “He’s a talented money manager and an extremely hardworking person with broad interests. Most unusual, though, is that in this media-obsessed age he is not in any sense a self-promoter.””

No, he wouldn’t be wanting a bunch of publicity given what we now know about what he was up to.  So here comes the damage control, and what the article is really about.  Epstein just likes Clinton because of his political expertise and his beautiful mind.  That’s why Epstein sponsored the jaunt around Africa.  Clinton?  Well…

“What attracted Clinton to Epstein was quite simple: He had a plane (he has a couple, in fact – the Boeing 727, in which he took Clinton to Africa, and, for shorter jaunts, a black Gulfstream, a Cessna 421, and a helicopter to ferry him from his island to St. Thomas). Clinton had organized a weeklong tour of South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, Rwanda, and Mozambique to do what Clinton does. So when the president’s advance man Doug Band pitched the idea to Epstein, he said sure. As an added bonus, Kevin Spacey, a close friend of Clinton’s, and actor Chris Tucker came along for the ride.

While Epstein got an intellectual kick out of engaging African finance ministers in theoretical chitchat about economic development, the real payoff for him was observing Clinton in his métier: talking HIV/aids policy with African leaders and soaking up the love from Cape Town to Lagos.”

Spacey, a now known sexual predator, is a close friend of Clinton’s.  Clinton is going to Africa ‘to do what Clinton does,’ ‘soaking up the love…”

I feel like puking.  And Clinton has no other friends with planes?

We also learn that Epstein is a friend and supporter of former Democratic Senate leader George Mitchell, who tells us that Epstein has funded his philanthropic projects and organized a fund-raiser for him.

He got his start, apparently, from Wexler, a major republican donor who won’t talk about his connections with Epstein, but is said to have been his first major client (and the only one known by name).

“Epstein has a particularly close relationship with Martin Nowak, an Austrian biology and mathematics professor who heads the theoretical-biology program at the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton…. This past February, Epstein had Nowak over for dinner at the 71st Street townhouse. It was just the two of them (not including the wait staff), and Nowak, making use of a blackboard in the formal dining room, delivered a two-hour highly mathematical description of how language works.”

So who were these ‘wait staff?’  How old were they?  I mean, maybe it was all normal and above board.  In a business like Epstein’s you have to have some y none-pervy friends and associates to give you cover.  You have to schmooze around and put out feelers for new clients and that means you’ll do some a lot of things to get close to a lot of people so you can find out if they share your creepy pervy tastes, and many people you get close to won’t be in that crowd. Your friendship stops there, at a safe place, you don’t push your creepy stuff, you pretend to be normal.  So not every single associate of Epstein’s is going to be a creep- unless they remained friends with him after his conviction a few years ago, which most Democrats did.

Let’s read on, and think about what this means:

“After dinner, Epstein asked if Nowak wanted to meet up with his new friend President Clinton, and off they went to a nearby deli, where Clinton regaled the starstruck former Oxford professor with tales from his own Oxford days. “Jeffrey has the mind of a physicist. It’s like talking to a colleague in your field,” says Nowak. “Sometimes he applies what we talk about to his investments. Sometimes it’s for his own curiosity. He has changed my life. Because of his support, I feel I can do anything I want.”

Is it a superclose friendship or the power of a ‘collector’ over one of his collection that he can give Clinton a call out of the blue in the middle of the night and have him agree to meet up at a local deli to chat with a total stranger.

That’s cause for concern.  Keep in mind this time period is exactly the time frame for which Epstein is currently indicted for running an underage brothel and sex trafficking.

In 2015 Trump told people quite publicly that Clinton was going to be facing problems because of his connections to Epstein and visits to the island.

In 2015 National Enquirer published what they said were photos of Prince Andrew visiting Epstein’s island and taking part in the entertainments there.  The then owner of the magazine was a friend of Trump’s, and he visited Trump with that issue, and two different witnesses- Sam Nunberg and Michael Cohen say that Trump told them Pecker said Epstein had pictures of Clinton on his island as well, and they were worse.  I wonder if Pecker will be subpoenaed?

Vanity Fair, a leftist publication clearly trying to keep Trump’s name in this, has to admit, however,

“Trump isn’t known to have gone on any trips with Epstein, which would have been out of character. “I don’t think Trump would go to someone else’s property or someone else’s island or villa,” Nunberg said. “He doesn’t even play golf at anyone else’s clubs.””

Nobody knew?  EVerybody knew. This was more of an open secret than Weinstein or Bryan Singer.  In court filings from 2011 a guy representing some of Epstein’s underaged victims stated that previously Trump had banned Epstein from all his properties because he sexually assaulted a girl.

In the wake of the arrest, Nancy Pelosi’s daughter admitted on twitter that in the Epstein case, some of ‘our faves’ were going to go down, but what mattered was the kids.  I agree with her sentiment- what matters is the victims and justice.  But don’t you wonder who she means by some of ‘our’ faves? We know she would not be calling Trump one of her faves.

And in 2002, the then editor of Vanity Fair, Graydon Carter, cleaned up the story his reporter had put together and cut out of it the tale of two young teens Epstein attempted to seduce.  Read that very chilling disturbing account of the real Epstein vs the one everybody else told reporters they knew, and remember Trump is the only person who had the guts to tell a reporter at the time that Epstein liked his girls young, and do so under his own name.

Nobody knew until this year, several people have told me, especially not about the Clinton connections.

I posted this in December of 2017

“Clinton rode on the Lolita Express over two dozen times. Sometimes he ditched his security to do it.  The owner of the Lolita Express, Jeffrey Epstein, is a convicted pedophile.  Epstein has been protected by the Democrat establishment for decades.  The media remains distinctly lacking in any curiosity whatsoever about the underaged girls he procured and abused and the politicians and movers and shakers who met those child sex-slaves, who flew on his plane to his island and what they did there.  It’s a far more disturbing story, and also more current, than Franken or Moore.  I am not suggesting they should ignore the latter.  But when they don’t care at all about doing any sort of investigative journalism into the Epstein story, I remain completely cynical about their journalistic ‘ethics,’ and their reasons for choosing the stories they choose.

Want something even more timely? Senator Menendez and underage prostitutes.  But he’s a democrat who, unlike Franken, would not be replaced by a Democrat if he steps down.”

That link is to a Frontpage Mag article that either isn’t there or is behind a paywall, not sure which.  It is, after all, nearly two years old.  But this is their front page article today, addressing Clinton’s current denials about any meaningful association with Epstein.

I posted this in November of 2017:

Here’s the kind of thing the left and the media but I repeat myself has been hiding, ignoring, for the last 20 years:
“Former President Bill Clinton continues to remain silent about the 26 flights he took aboard convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein’s private jet, dubbed the “Lolita Express,” which reportedly offered underage girls to passengers to rape.

Fox News wrote in 2016 that the Lolita Express, a Boeing 727 jet, was “reportedly outfitted with a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls.”

Clinton flew on some trips where the flight logs showed only the first names of female passengers.

The Daily Caller News Foundation contacted the Clinton Presidential Library last week to obtain information about the former president’s relationship with billionaire Epstein, who in 2008 was convicted of soliciting sex from underage girls as young as 14….”


I posted this in November of 2016 (I find the whole post even more interesting today):

Speaking of poor judgment- that sexual assault of a minor lawsuit that followed Trump around and was finally dropped right before the election?  The abuse allegedly occurred on Epstein’s rape island.  The Epstein now in jail as a pedophile.  The victim says she had no idea who the perpetrator was until years later when she saw Trump on The Apprentice, and that she ‘came to believe’ it was him.  Apparently that belief only became firm enough to act on when he ran for President. She says she just couldn’t have a rapist in the White House.

Trump was, according to law enforcement, ‘inserted’ into her charges, and that’s why they were dropped.  They had no credibility.  This is heartbreaking, because chances are strong that she actually was assaulted by Epstein and others on his island of evil when she was a child.  But there’s no evidence Trump was there. You know who did visit that island?

Flight logs show Bill Clinton took at least 26 trips on the plane that featured a bed where guests had group sex with young and underage girls.

Epstein went to prison for 13 months and was placed under home detention for solicitation and procurement of minors for prostitution. He allegedly had girls as young as 12 years old on his 72-acre island in the U.S. Virgin Islands. The island, Little St. James, was called “Orgy Island,” and the girls there serviced Epstein’s friends.


Cess pool.”

You know the media and everybody else has been turning over flight logs and every other document they could find looking for dirt on Trump, and there is still no record of him ever visiting Epstein’s island.  There is a single record of him taking a single flight within the continental U.S. either to or from New York City (I forget which).  There were no girls listed on that flight, and no passengers listed by only their initials, unlike Bill Clinton, whose flights on Epstein’s planes nearly always include young females or people listed only by initials.  Epstein’s brother was also on that flight with Trump and he testified that Trump was hitching a ride.   There are records showing Clinton on the Lolita Express (the name alone should have been garnering massive publicity and disinfecting sunlight for years) over 2 dozen times.  There are also records of both Bill and Hilary visiting Epstein’s sordid little island more than once, sometimes together, sometimes separately.  And Epstein has donated largely to the Clinton foundation.

People who mattered knew.  Some of them said things, some dropped dark hints, some said nothing at all, and some kept quiet because they were participants.

Some tried to speak and were silenced, afraid (the piece by the woman who tried to warn us about him in a 2003 VanityFair article, which she first revealed after his conviction in a 2015 Daily Beast article)

Related: Who is Wexner?

Who is more responsible for letting Epstein skate with that wrist slap sentence? Acosta or Cyrus Vance?  How about they both resign?

Schumer took thousands in donations from Epstein, some after his previous conviction.

Epstein threw a big party after he served his silly sentence for his serious crime.  Guess who attended?  Why would anybody still be part of that mess?  Katie Couric, George Stefanapolous, Woody Allen (no big surprise) were there.  The article is deeply disturbing, just how little these left wing jet setters care about 15 year old masseuses or Epstein soliciting minors for sex.   This was published in 2011, btw.  This bit did not age well:

“Professor Lawrence Krauss, a theoretical physicist and author of Quantum Man, has planned scientific conferences with Epstein in St. Thomas and remained close with him throughout his incarceration. “If anything, the unfortunate period he suffered has caused him to really think about what he wants to do with his money and his time, and support knowledge,” says Krauss. “Jeffrey has surrounded himself with beautiful women and young women but they’re not as young as the ones that were claimed. As a scientist I always judge things on empirical evidence and he always has women ages 19 to 23 around him, but I’ve never seen anything else, so as a scientist, my presumption is that whatever the problems were I would believe him over other people.” Though colleagues have criticized him over his relationship with Epstein, Krauss insists, “I don’t feel tarnished in any way by my relationship with Jeffrey; I feel raised by it.””

However, ”

n 2018, Krauss’s own sexually abusive past came to light in a Buzzfeed investigation that found several women who said he had harassed them in the past, including a woman who complained that Krauss propositioned her for a threesome while he was speaking aboard a Center for Inquiry cruise ship. CFI buried the complaint and invited Krauss back on the cruise on a later year.

This is no shock: abusers protect abusers. Why would Krauss abandon his buddy over some light rape when he himself is out there regularly pushing right on past women’s established boundaries?”

Anne Coulter believes it was a blackmailing business with backing at the state level.


I’m curious about when and where Epstein’s plane was first dubbed the Lolita Express.  I have now read three different accounts- one says local islanders called it the Lolita Express. One said it was Epstein’s own nickname for it, and multiple accounts say it was the media.

I know this was a long post.  It was even longer to write, I read and reread dozens of stories and comments on those stories, and more, trying to organize it as much as possible in my mind and figure out a timeline.  I left out little things, like how disturbing I find it that a guy who likes teenaged girls started teaching in a private high school when he was 20, or that Epstein actually had to leave his first trading job because he broke the law and was basically fired (most reports claim instead that he was so successful he went into business on his own five years in), and more.  It’s a gross, disturbing, creepy story about a bunch of disturbing creeps with too much power and money, and I hope this time Epstein goes down for good and takes all of those who participated in his creepy abuse of teenaged girls go down with him, no matter who they are.


PostScript: Trump banned Epstein from his properties 15 years ago. No evidence he ever flew on Epstein’s Lolita Express has yet surfaced.



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